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Subject: Unsolicited commercial e-mail and junk mail on BIBLIST
From: Jarmo Saarikko <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:40:09 +0200
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Please, stop replying back to the list with the REMOVE commands!!!!

As a reminder, in 99% of the cases REMOVE requests of unsolicited
commercial e-mails only CONFIRM to the original sender that your address
is correct and you actually read your messages. This only INCREASES the
amount of junk mail to you.

When the junk comes to you via a mailing list, such as BIBLIST, there is
NOTHING you can do to stop it.  The listowner is the only person who is
able to restrict messages coming to you via the list.

I have previously requested some simple changes to the list settings (with
no reply).  These changes would reduce (not eliminate) the amount of junk
on the list. I ask you to do the following changes *** immediately *** to
increase the technical quality and protection of biblist:


1. restrict the posting access to subscribers only, because
   now ANYBODY can post anything to the list.
   change the CURRENT setting of:
* Send = Public
   to these NEW settings:
* Send = Editor,Hold
* Editor = [log in to unmask], (BIBLIST)
  (The list is set as editor so that all members of the list can post)

2. change the reply settings of biblist followingly:
   CURRENT SETTING:
* Reply-to = List,Respect
   NEW SETTING:
* Reply-to = Sender,Respect
With this setting you would to specifically add the list address
when you want to reply to the list, but this prevents the private
replies ending up to the list as has happened so many times
this year.

3. Change the review access to listowners only:
  CURRENT setting:
* Review = Public
  NEW:
* Review = Owners
  so that our addresses are not stolen for unwanted commercial activities!

4. Change the subscribtion option so that new subscribers
   need to confirm. This will decrease the junk mail to listowners,
  CURRENT:
* Subscription = Open
  NEW:
* Subscription = Open, Confirm

This message is mainly targeted to the current listowners
but I have posted it publicly because this concerns all
subscribers of the list:
* Owner=      [log in to unmask]         (Per Thernquist)
* Owner=      [log in to unmask]        (Ulla Daehli-Martins)
* Owner=      [log in to unmask] (Birgitta Stevinger)

Yours sincerely,
Jarmo Saarikko,
information specialist
Finnish Forest Research Institute
Helsinki, Finland
- also a listowner at segate.

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