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Subject: Upprop till ny online-encyklopedi från medgrundare av Wikipedia
From: Mattias Brundell <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:BIBLIST - Topics in Nordic research library user services <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:37:02 +0000

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Hej! Jag vidarebefordrar ett intressant inl�gg som gjordes f�rra veckan av
Larry Sanger, Digital Universe Foundation (och f � medgrundare av Wikipedia)
p� H-Net List for Online Education in the Humanities (H-OEH). Han f�resl�r
d�r en ny online-encyklopedi av samma typ som Wikipedia, men under ledning
och kontroll av �mnesspecialister samt signerade bidrag, till gagn f�r
encyklopedins allm�nna trov�rdighet. Samtidigt �r denna encyklopedi endast
ett led i ett mycket mer vittfamnande projekt med syfte att skapa vad Sanger
i rubriken kallar "a New Expert Internet".

H�lsningar, Mattias Brundell
               Haninge bibliotek

PS. Mer bakgrundsinformation finner man i Larry Sangers "The Origins of
Wikipedia" (2001). Den utg�r en redigerad version av "The Early History of
Nupedia and Wikipedia : a Memoir" som Larry Sanger sj�lv h�nvisar till i
slutet av sitt inl�gg. Intresserade som inte orkar l�sa hela denna
omfattande skildring, rekommenderar jag att �tminstone �gna igenom det
avslutande avsnittet ("Conclusions"). "The Origins of Wikipedia" finns
tillg�nglig p�:,_2001,_by_Larry_Sanger

D�rut�ver h�nvisar jag till en l�sv�rd intervju med Larry Sanger som
publicerades i januari -05 i Technology Review (rubrik: "Larry Sanger�s
Knowledge Free-for-All : Wikipedia�s founder likes the mess"). Den finns att
l�sa p�:



>From: "Sax, Boria" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: H-Net List for Online Education in the Humanities
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Proposal for Online Encyclopedia
>Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:13:43 -0500
>There is an interesting proposal by Larry Sanger to create an online
>encyclopedia, similar to Wikipedia but written by experts.
>Creating the Digital Universe
>  January 19, 2006
>  Toward a New Expert Internet: an Open Letter to the Academic Community
>(Here's a "get involved" letter aimed at academic types. Feel free to
>send this peer-to-peer, too.)
>Dear colleagues,
>Collaboration is powerful. Enormous collaborative efforts on
>clearly-defined, useful projects can be world-changing. Wikipedia
>demonstrates that; but it is often touted as a reference for which
>mainly nonexperts write. So imagine if the international community of
>experts were to start and manage many distributed, collaborative
>projects. Small projects of this sort have already started, of course,
>but the prospects of expanded efforts are staggering.
>What would happen if massive numbers of experts of the world were to
>unite and, with the help of the general public, do what they do
>best--impart knowledge to the world, for free?
>Professors, scientists, researchers, teachers, and other experts could
>create a general encyclopedia produced using a wiki. The result would
>combine the dynamism of Wikipedia with more consistently high quality.
>Imagine that the public were invited to contribute too, but under the
>management of experts and using their real names. How many intelligent
>people would jump at the chance to work under the instruction of
>experts, in a community where personal responsibility and maturity are
>expected? Many more than are already working on Wikipedia, I think.
>Imagine that this community were to develop free, top-quality
>information resources beyond encyclopedias--from new editions of public
>domain books released by scholars, to citizen journalism led by
>journalists, to online forums led by policy experts, to high-quality
>free curricula designed by professional educators and subject-matter
>experts. Granted, the Internet has already made inroads on these fronts.
>But, frankly, I believe the principles that have made Wikipedia work so
>wonderfully have not been successfully applied either to other types of
>projects or to the expert community. By both widening the scope of our
>content creation and aggregating the influence of the expert community,
>much more could be done. This is particularly the case if we have the
>participation of those who can understand deeply why Wikipedia works as
>well as it does, and can "think outside of the box" that Wikipedia seems
>to have created for some people.
>My claim is that experts could be mobilized online in the way that
>ordinary netizens have been mobilized by Wikipedia, to work on content
>projects far larger and more important than an encyclopedia--and that
>this suggestion has revolutionary potential. But if so, why hasn't it
>happened yet?
>There are several reasons. One reason is that organizing the world's
>intelligentsia online might require a new way to fund an online
>nonprofit. To this end, ManyOne has a completely novel affinity branded
>ISP service, that will be resellable by nonprofits and even individuals,
>which will, we hope, solve this problem. (More on this in later blog
>posts. The first example of the ISP service--again, this is only an
>example of a reusable, resellable service--is the Earth Portal Internet
>Service .)
>Now, don't get me wrong--I love online communities--but another reason
>for slow uptake of the collaborative Web among academics is surely that
>many online communities are infamous for their immature, irresponsible
>behavior. Such behavior is tolerated, on principle, as part of Internet
>culture. So, naturally, it seems unlikely that academics will adopt this
>Internet culture on a much wider scale. Moreover, "knowledge workers"
>owe their positions to a powerful meritocratic system that contrasts
>strongly with a hyper-egalitarian Internet. In some online contexts, one
>is not supposed to care whether the anonymous person with whom one is
>conversing is a 15-year-old high school student or a 50-year-old college
>professor. The typical academic or professional finds such contexts
>neither welcoming nor worthwhile.
>But we can start a new kind of Internet culture, one that is welcoming
>to mature, well-educated people, and thereby liberate the collective
>power of online experts. I appeal to scholars, scientists, teachers, and
>librarians, and (emphatically) that part of the public that wants to
>work under their guidance: let us organize and build a new kind of Web.
>The nonprofit Digital Universe Foundation will soon start a free wiki
>encyclopedia from scratch, managed by experts but allowing public
>participation. It will require the use of real names and have robust
>community standards. It will be just one part of the Digital
>Universe--an authoritative, ambitious new Web project. The software and
>platform that runs the Digital Universe is under development by ManyOne
>Networks, which will come under the control of the nonprofit ManyOne
>I have been helping to plan the encyclopedia component of the Digital
>Universe since spring 2005. I have some relevant experience: I was
>co-founder of Wikipedia, though I left the project in 2002 (see my
>memoir for why I left). This new project is closer to the original
>vision we had for Wikipedia, which involved a strong association with
>its more straight-laced and peer-reviewed predecessor, Nupedia.
>We are now seeding new coalitions of organizations and individuals, each
>independent of the Digital Universe Foundation and of each other, but
>working together to create the greatest single information resource the
>world has ever seen. Potential Stewards, please register your interest
>(this is not a commitment--it is just a way for us to get in touch with
>you and find out on what terms you wish to participate). Potential
>public participants, please tell us how to get ahold of you and we'll
>let you know when our first content-building projects get started.
>Dr. Larry Sanger
>Director of Distributed Content Programs
>Digital Universe Foundation
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>Boria Sax, Ph.D.
>Director of Online Research, Development and Training
>Online Campus
>Mercy College
>555 Broadway
>Dobbs Ferry, NY 10522
>Phone: (914) 674-7397
>Fax: (914) 674-7240
>Email: [log in to unmask]

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